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Not that I particularly care about the happenings of Sir McCartney, but blah blah his marriage might be on the outs and the media's raising all sorts of questions about prenuptial agreements that I've thought off and on about since Lord knows when. Does signing a prenup mean that you believe your marriage will go down the tubes? Or is it just a safety net because realistically you know something like 1/2 (3/4?) of marriages end with a visit to the local judge? Out of curiosity I have to ask -

[Poll #731649]

Comments, marriage proposals...drop 'em below. Enlighten me, please.

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In other non-related media news, Halle Berry wants to quit the whole superhero gig. Good! - go frak up some other movies I have no intention to see. That woman's "acting" makes me break out into hives.

Date: 2006-05-18 11:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] modpixie.livejournal.com
i'd hit it.

::ducks::

Date: 2006-05-19 02:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fredericks.livejournal.com
I like your style. You lie, but you're succinct with it.

I'd totally let you hit it too ::runs::

Date: 2006-05-18 11:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lab-brat.livejournal.com
I think in this day and age when as you said, the divorce rate is at least 50% Im surprised more people -dont- get one. Especially celebrities. I mean dude, they were showing how much whatshisname earnt in the last year and its more money that I will see in my lifetime. Id be getting one if I had that kind of income. no question. even if I thought the marriage would last forever. he's probably richer than shit though and wont even miss what his wife will get. : /

Date: 2006-05-19 02:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fredericks.livejournal.com
I'm with you. If I was worth 1.5 BILLION getting one of those would be, like, no question. Surely if you loved me and thought we'd be together forever it wouldn't matter if you signed a prenup or not, right?

But, true. He can spare a couple of hundred million to give to his wife. Although one wonders how much of that he has on hand and how much of it is the value of his various catalogs and properties. That'd be sort of hard to divide. :(

Date: 2006-05-19 01:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] terranova33.livejournal.com
I don't care that much about wealth, I love a person for who they are, but I would sign a prenup, why not....don't care about it.

Date: 2006-05-19 02:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fredericks.livejournal.com
Here here.

Date: 2006-05-19 02:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sternel.livejournal.com
They don't just have to be 'in the event we break up.' It can also be 'x amount of each of our salaries will go into a retirement fund, and we will set y amount aside for our children's college fund, should this marriage result in issue, and the couple will utilize Spouse A's health insurance, each continue maintaining their separate life insurance policies, and promise to not fight over the car loans.'

That's why they're a good idea. Get /all/ the financial crap, the arguing, the decision-making out of the way first. If you approach it properly, it could probably be the make, not the break, of a stable and sane relationship.

The problem being none of us are stable and sane, so we're screwed.

And I'd totally propose marriage to you, but New York State won't recognize it. We'll have to head up to Gretna Green Toronto.

Date: 2006-05-19 03:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fredericks.livejournal.com
If you approach it properly, it could probably be the make, not the break, of a stable and sane relationship.
That's it, though. Too many of the younger set don't consider finances "romantic" and don't really take it into consideration when looking at a potential mate. Of course, take that with a big heaping spoonful of "IMO". We're totally screwed. To the Nth degree.

Date: 2006-05-19 02:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devoosha.livejournal.com
We don't have one....but then...we don't have any money :D The house is in both of our names...so if there were a divorce, it'd be sold and split 50/50 anyway. We have no other assets. But if there are assets involved, ones that came to one of the people before the wedding, I think it's a good idea. It's less hassle if divorce is what happens.

Date: 2006-05-19 03:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fredericks.livejournal.com
You guys agreed on the house selling already? Coolness.

I worry about finances a lot. I learn from the mistakes of my parents every day. Those two don't talk about money unless forced to, and it's stupid as hell.

Date: 2006-05-19 03:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xioley.livejournal.com
Are you going to see X3 when it comes out?

Date: 2006-05-19 03:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fredericks.livejournal.com
I'm very hesitant because I've heard enough about what goes on within it that I believe the movie will not do the source material justice. And I know Storm gets exponentially more screen time and I dislike Halle Berry's "acting". A lot. My brother will most likely end up dragging me out to the theatre. He's already threatened me if I don't go with them already.

Are you going?

Date: 2006-05-19 03:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xioley.livejournal.com
yup...but I'ne heard they changed directors. Also, heh, I'll have to see the first two.

Date: 2006-05-22 04:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xioley.livejournal.com
Yes and no. I support comics. I especially like comics that aren't superhero-like. I buy comics. Comics interest me. But a fan? Eh, not exactly. I certainly wouldn't call myself a fan-girl. I have to admit that Dan has gotten me interested in comics (he once published an online comics anthology) largely because he has such a passion for them. And he turned me onto Aaron Moore--and that's opened a whole can of comic interest for me. And he's showed me how comic book hero stuff isn't just about the masturbatory fantasies of young nerd boys grown up; it sometimes (often?) is allegorical. So I didn't get the fascination with X-men before the way I do now. And now, I really am interested; willing to give it a shot.

Date: 2006-05-19 05:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jezzylin.livejournal.com
A prenup does not necessarily mean that both spouses are expecting the marriage to fail. What a prenup can do is protect the other partner in certain circumstances. Like, if the husband gets sued by whomever, the prenup would guarantee that the wife's assets cannot be touched. Only the husband would possibly lose everything. Vice versa, of course. It can also guarantee other things such as debts... if the wife (or husband) has outstanding debts, the other spouse would not be held accountable in helping to repay them.

Etc., etc., I personally think prenups are a good idea if you truly love someone and don't want to possibly involve them in your future downfalls. Prenups get a bad rap for no good reason. They're actually quite ideal.

Date: 2006-05-20 03:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fredericks.livejournal.com
I agree. I had no idea prenups were useful in case of lawsuit or material losses by one party, though. Interesting.

Date: 2006-05-19 02:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quenya-tattoo.livejournal.com
We didn't sign one, and he definitely had more money than I. I would never ask him to sign one and he would never ask me. To me, and call this ridiculous if you like, it does imply that divorce is an option. I realize that this is the real world, and it is an option.

But if that were a real thought in my mind, I would never have gotten married in the first place.

Date: 2006-05-20 03:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fredericks.livejournal.com
I've been informed that prenups aren't just "in case of divorce". They're finances set in stone before the marriage begins. But I've not thought seriously about the topic of marriage since...hmm, couple of years. I can see your point, though. None of the married people who responded were really for prenups. Interesting.

Date: 2006-05-19 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fallen-ophelia.livejournal.com
I'm gonna go to the LYS soon, I still will make the scarf for you. What colour would you like? Any choose of yarn -- wool, soft acrylic, cashmere blend, cotton etc... Whatcha want? Also e-mail me with your addy and stuff so I can send it to you when it's done :-] you can find my e-mail addy on my info page.

Date: 2006-05-20 03:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fredericks.livejournal.com
I sent you a lovely gushy e-mail. You're awesome! *grin*

Date: 2006-05-20 08:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fallen-ophelia.livejournal.com
I got it, you are so cute! :-D didn't make it to the LYS yesterday hopefully today I will before I pick up my coat!! I can definately do soft yarn for you a lovely merino wool or cashmere blend and green (good choice btw) :-]

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